Jump to content
Doublezero

The Electronic Arts thread

Recommended Posts

12 hours ago, ritualclarity said:

"12 big upcoming games you'll spend over 100 hours playing"

Yeah, sure, I might spend another 100 hours playing "Skyrim Switch"... :D and another 100 hours on Skyrim Android... 

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

Lucasfilm weighs in on Star Wars Battlefront 2 loot box ordeal

Disney unhappy with how outrage "reflected on [its] marquee property."

Over the weekend, we learned that Star Wars Battlefront 2 developer EA told investors that the removal of the game's controversial microtransactions will not have "a material impact" on its projected earnings. On Friday, the Disney-owned Lucasfilm issued a statement in support of the withdrawal. 

In an statement provided to the Washington Post (via Eurogamer), a Lucasfilm spokesperson said: "Star Wars has always been about the fans—and whether it’s Battlefront or any other Star Wars experience, they come first. That’s why we support EA’s decision to temporarily remove in-game payments to address fan concerns."

Despite EA's earlier claims that Battlefront 2's loot crates did not constitute gambling, they were temporarily removed last week off the back of a turbulent Reddit AMA between the publisher and the game's players. 

The Washington Post reports that Jimmy Pitaro, the chairman of Disney's consumer products and interactive media division, voiced concerns to EA about Battlefront's in-game transactions hours prior to EA's decision to pull them. The Post says this call "was to express Disney executives’ unhappiness at how the outrage 'reflected on their marquee property.'" 

Lucasfilm and Disney's stance seems clear, then, despite the fact EA plans to reinstate microtransactions once the game's progression system has been tweaked.

If you're yet to play Star Wars Battlefront 2, head in this direction for Tyler's review.  

http://www.pcgamer.com/lucasfilm-weighs-in-on-star-wars-battlefront-2-loot-box-ordeal/

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

^ that really belonged on the Cringe worthy thread... ;)

5000 dollars to day doing that very same thing! WTF... Must be nice being very well paid to be able to spend all that money on a game, most don't have that luxury. That intro really made me cringe...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

EA will blame us (the customer/consumer) for all their issues, much like MEA. Just wait for it.

It isn't a bad game. It works well and the story is decent (as far as I can tell I am not a fan of Star Wars games and dind't play the previous game)

IMO it is the outrage and the media outrage is the case of the lower sales.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

xDxDxDxD

Quote

Star Wars Battlefront 2: French Senator Writes Letter To Gambling Authority Over Potential Concerns

France is just the latest country to look into loot boxes and potential pay-to-win scenarios.

A French Senator has penned a letter to the online gambling authority in France regarding his thoughts on loot boxes and microtransactions in the wake of the controversy surrounding Star Wars: Battlefront II. Jerome Durain's letter to the independent agency, ARJEL, opens by praising video games and esports in particular for helping contribute to the cultural and economic growth of entertainment in France.

Despite all of the positives, Durain pointed out in his letter posted on Twitter that the video game world is constantly evolving, with one potential area of concern being the growing trend of loot boxes and microtransactions, as most recently brought to the forefront by Star Wars: Battlefront II. He mentioned that there is some amount of worry among the gaming crowd that microtransactions could have a "deleterious" effect on the industry.

Durain went on to say that he is not recommending any specific legislation regarding microtransactions and loot boxes, adding that when loot boxes contain cosmetic items only (as they do in Overwatch), these are generally well-accepted. But Durain took issue with games that can offer loot boxes as part of a "pay-to-win" scheme, mentioning Star Wars: Battlefront II by name in making his point.

He said Battlefront II's loot boxes could be seen as a form of gambling, with the suggestion being that if they are, some amount of consumer protection may be advisable. Durain pointed out that China has already taken steps in this area, as the country mandates that developers disclose loot box odds for some games, including Overwatch, while Belgium has launched its own investigation as well. Durain is now wondering if ARJEL has the capacity to take on such an initiative, which is why he wrote the letter.

Finally, Durain said he also spoke with other key parties in France about this, including the country's Secretary of State for Digital Affairs, video game consumer and developer bodies, and ESports organizations. With all of their input considered, Durain said he's confident France can make progress towards action.

Notably, Durain's message to ARJEL is dated November 16. That's the same day that EA removed microtransactions from Battlefront II. That announcement was made late in the day on November 16, so it seems likely, given that France is nine hours ahead of California time, that Durain's letter went out before the news broke.

Durain's letter was translated into English by Reddit user Artfunkel (via GameRant) and confirmed by multiple people on staff at GameSpot.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-wars-battlefront-2-french-senator-writes-lett/1100-6455112/

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Blame the consumers
  • raise the initial cost
  • reintroduce the microtranctions
  • make bank...

That seems to be where EA is going.

WTF, if they didn't do this shit they do BFII would be hitting all the numbers and then some. They are taking issue with us fighting against loot boxes but they(consumers) don't seem to care about those coming from overwatch which are just changes in outfits and such not critical benefits to online game play. Why can't they give some cool items that isn't critical to get ahead in the game. For getting ahead in the game, have a reasonable progression for non-pay to play users and a "booster pack" clearly indicated for advancement and include all that is needed to get say 20 hours advancements out of it for a few bucks per character. Keep away from the gambling aspect. That would be better than what they are doing now. .

Note to EA. I don't believe the consumer is wanting shit for free and will be willing to pay you good $$$ for a good game that they can get reasonable pay back from playing. Stop trying to figure ways to rip us off, and start working for ways that we both can get what we want. Then you won't be on Reditt with the worst downvoted comment in redit history!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes, they should so that they sell a massive amount of games less and they go back on sale where the consumer buys them at the price they determine is the price they want for whatever game they are selling.

Come on, this isn't a loaf of bread or can of soup. It is a game, a luxury item, as a result, it will be purchased at the prices that the market will allow. Price it higher and there will be much less purchases until it go down to a proper, reasonable price. Add Micro Transactions as they have, and it will need to go much lower to cover for that shit in my opinion... My wallet won't let me get it otherwise ;)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My gold standard for a game is; $1 per hour game play for the main campaign.

If a game I'm interested in doesn't 60+ hrs of campaign play in the base game then I won't buy it at full price.  Increasing the price of a game based on number crunching and bean counting from some asshole analyst shows a lack of understanding.  That $60 not only includes playtime invested but also 'little' things like story, graphics, replay value, and everything else gamers look for BEFORE they buy.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think that "gold standard" you mention is pretty good rule (for purchasing a game for campaign play not MMO or such)

In that rule as it is, Battlefront II isn't worth it as the est. game play is less by many accounts. Some might get more out of it with the on line option but I am not into the on line option so the gold standard mentioned above is what makes it not a good purchase.

That and they can't make up their mind about the micro transactions and nobody knows what the final form of the game will be. This time EA released a game that is in good shape ( playable not an MEA) and quality but can't get their shit together as to what type of fuckery they will finally settle on so people aren't buying it. That is hurting those DEEP POCKETS that will buy whatever is Star Wars or EA as well. They just like fucking themselves. lol. Time to gather up the popcorn... things are going to get real interesting. EA hasn't' given us this level of screwups  since MEA was released.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Good going EA! You really ruined it for the rest of the greedy publishers. :XD:

Quote

Belgium says loot boxes are gambling, wants them banned in Europe

The Minster of Justice says the mix of gaming and gambling is "dangerous."

Last week, Belgium's Gaming Commission announced that it had launched an investigation into whether the loot boxes available for purchase in games like Overwatch and Star Wars Battlefront 2 constitute a form of gambling. Today, VTM News reported that the ruling is in, and the answer is yes. 

The Google translation is a little sloppy, as usual, but the message is clear enough. "The mixing of money and addiction is gambling," the Gaming Commission declared. Belgium's Minister of Justice Koen Geens also weighed in, saying, "Mixing gambling and gaming, especially at a young age, is dangerous for the mental health of the child." 

Geens, according to the report, wants to ban in-game purchases outright (correction: if you don't know exactly what you're purchasing), and not just in Belgium: He said the process will take time, "because we have to go to Europe. We will certainly try to ban it." 

And now, things will start to get interesting. I've reached out to the Gaming Commission for more information, and will update if I receive a reply. 

http://www.pcgamer.com/belgium-says-loot-boxes-are-gambling-wants-them-banned-in-europe/

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Is it me or does he look like he is standing in front of a green screen?

 

edit:

Holly, shit.. they invoked Joe Camel... they are going for blood.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's legit. I thought it was a joke at first.

Quote

The State Of Hawaii Investigating EA For "Predatory Practices"

Yesterday, Democratic State Representative from Hawaii Chris Lee held a press conference to explain that the state of Hawaii is going to be investigating legislation banning games like EA's Star Wars: Battlefront II from being played by young children, both in Hawaii and possibly pursuing it on a national scale.

Similar to Belgium also declaring today that the government has ruled that games with lootboxes will henceforth be categorized as gambling, Hawaii is pursuing investigations is whether the same idea applies in the U.S.

"This game is a Star Wars-themed online casino," Lee said from the podium. "It's a trap."

You can find the video here of Lee, speaking with other legislator Sean Quinlan, a concerned parent, and a gamer who just seems to be mad about lootboxes ruining games.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2017/11/21/the-state-of-hawaii-investigating-ea-for-predatory-practices.aspx

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There is only so much shit that anyone can dish out before people start really getting pissed off. They (EA) just kept on pushing and pushing their shit agenda and am getting shit for it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   1 member

  • Similar Content

    • By ritualclarity
      I downloaded the trial and am playing it. I have played it for a very short time but so far it isn't Mass Effect Andromeda ;).
      So far the graphics are fair to good. Better than MEA. The facial animations have some issues from time to time but way better than MEA was. The game play is responsive and easy enough to figure out for the most part. (playing on very easy)
      I have been playing less than an hour of my 10 hour trial so I havne't been able to do much but the first section and moving into the second one. I will give them points for their introduction. There is a fixed character you have during the campaign trial. Not sure if you bought the game if you would have a different one, however it is a female which is different than many games for hero. (if she is a hero considering you are playing as a solder from the Empire not a rebel)
      I will post some more of my thoughts on this game during my 10 hour trial period. So far I enjoyed it more than MEA... however, that was a very low bar to obtain All jokes aside it is so far a solid functional game without any serious glitches. Haven't played enough to see if the story is interesting enough to engage but the shooting is pretty solid. Reminds me of ME3 shooting a bit. I don't play very many first person shooters like Call of Duty and the such so can't compare that.
      review and spoiler (of sorts) (glitch experienced)
      I am giving it a very open minded review. focus on playability and story etc. Not lore (I don't know that much about Star Wars during the time of this game)
      Feel free to chime in. Please, chime in serious reviews, Youtube video reviews etc. If there are spoilers please placed them in actual spoilers so as not to mess the game up for others. People that actually played the game are more than welcome to make negative comments based on actual situations, story or experiences. Please refrain from commenting unless referencing actual game play or linked video of actual game play. Thank you.
       
       
    • By Kendo 2
      After the SWBF 2015 community strife over paid DLC campaign maps and the 2017 kerfuffle of Mass Effect Andromeda, it seems EA still hasn't learned any lessons.  In a nutshell, EA is doing away with DLCs and implementing more 'pay to win' in-game microtransactions.  Gamespot has an article posted detailing what is going on.
      LINK to the article
    • By Kendo 2
      According to a report posted at Kotaku on 11 May 2017, the Mass Effect franchise has been placed in limbo by EA.  Read the full article HERE.
       
    • By Kendo 2
      In a bold move game publisher Electronic Arts has instated new rules for streamers, Youtubers and other "influencers" to use full disclosure about compensation paid by the company.
      The original article in German.
      Read an English translation of the full article at KeenGamer.com.
×