bjornk 570 Posted July 13, 2021 Haven't checked your thread on LL but I have that mod installed and I've never really used it so far. IMO a "dominant follower" (the mod requires a "follower") is kind of an oxymoron, it's a stupid concept really, mostly due to Skyrim's idiotic game mechanics. It would only make sense if the player was forced to follow a travelling NPC, who actually wanders around, and visits different locations, but the only NPCs in Skyrim that actually do that are the Khajiit traders and in fact, travelling with them can often be a fun adventure which I sometimes do. Quote
Kendo 2 2,924 Posted July 13, 2021 I agree the implementation of a Dom follower is sorely lacking. It'd be nice to have a mod where a companion does their own thing and you're just along for the ride. They would choose dungeons, towns to visit and conduct their own business. Bethesda's engine would ne hard-pressed to handle it and it's WAY beyond the scope of modders and devs. An escort AI package and a virtual leash can only go so far. Quote
bjornk 570 Posted July 13, 2021 If you've ever followed an NPC or an something else that is AI driven (such as travelling carts/carriages) in Skyrim, you'll notice that the overworld (aka. Tamriel) navmesh is not only not precise enough for the AI to navigate properly, but is also fairly broken, which often causes NPCs to get stuck in places or behave strangely. Which suggests that even if someone attempted to create a mod with wandering NPCs, that mod would most likely give the player a lotta headache. It's not impossible to make, but it would require a lot of fail-safe features to put things back in order. These kinds of dom-sub mods, or enslavement mods in general, need to provide their own content and consciously try not to interfere with the vanilla content. I would personally find it extremely annoying if I had to fight dragons and stuff and do vanilla quests while an NPC following me around and telling me to do it "in the nude". It's really a "rage-quit" material for me. There are much more immersive ways to implement what this mod is trying to do, but unfortunately, like the significant majority of LL mods, this one assumes a specific kind of fetish role-play in a juvenile and stupid way. Instead of using dumbass followers, a much better way would be to use certain prominent NPCs in towns that have actual daily traveling schedules (e.g. Erikur, Maven) who have influence and can afford to buy and keep the PC, perhaps as a result of an slave auction. 1 Quote
Kendo 2 2,924 Posted July 13, 2021 Now if I were the typical LL modder I'd be soliciting donations and promising the moon...and delivering minimal effort. Hair meshes and textures I didn't make. Outfit meshes and textures I didn't make (only reworked). Faces I already had generated. Maybe two hours worth of work in the CK. The thing, is I make shit like this for my games all the time and my folders are full of them. By own standards this isn't worth uploading because it NOT a big deal. After reading your post and thinking about this, it's really not worth the effort or LL downloader bullshit I'll have to endure. 1 Quote
bjornk 570 Posted July 13, 2021 Why don't you just go back working on 'Bands of the Whore' instead? Quote
Kendo 2 2,924 Posted July 13, 2021 1 hour ago, bjornk said: Why don't you just go back working on 'Bands of the Whore' instead? All the framework mods I used have been updated. That means WORK for me. And I deleted the WIP thread this DD thing over at LL. Not wasting my time. 1 Quote
bjornk 570 Posted July 13, 2021 Do what I do, only make the mods that you yourself will use and never make them for other people's use. Only then you will have created a really good mod. Quote
Kendo 2 2,924 Posted July 14, 2021 21 hours ago, bjornk said: Why don't you just go back working on 'Bands of the Whore' instead? I opened the esp in the CK just for kicks. YEAH, not updating it. It would be easier to just start over, and that's not happening either. Aside from using Skyrim as a porn simulator I'm done with it. No way I can take the game seriously. Quote
Kendo 2 2,924 Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 1:16 PM, bjornk said: a much better way would be to use certain prominent NPCs in towns that have actual daily traveling schedules (e.g. Erikur, Maven) who have influence and can afford to buy and keep the PC, perhaps as a result of an slave auction. The perfect NPC for this would be Erikur's sister Gisli. She's not tied to any game-changing quests, factions, etc. She already has a shit attitude and her voice type is used in follower dialogue. Quote
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