Windows Recall

[ritualclarity]

@Doublezero

A list of things you might want to see. YOu or anyone else that wants to do this. It might be slightly out of date but the basics are pretty much there. This guy went from changing from windoze to linux to creating his own custom destops later. (A short time later. )  If I am not mistaken he did admin for Linux before becoming a full Linux user.

[ritualclarity]

Another option for those moving to Linux is an Atomic desktop. It is a inmmutable OS meaning can't be changed (the key parts). It also can be updated easier without package (program) issues as each item is seperate and its own thing.

 

I've used Silverblue and it was excellent. ONly reason I moved from it is I needed some tools that wasn't available and or easily implemented using an immutable OS.

@Doublezero If you have any issues with Mint try one of these. Like Silver blue. The commands are slightly different but it is super stable. One command and your entire OS (imagine Windows) can be turned back while leaving your documents and programs exactly the way they were. So good.

[Doublezero]

I've been playing around with Linux Mint a bit more and I'm sold on it. All I could think was, why didn't I do this before? I have to hand it to Microsoft, they are the best marketers for Linux. 

If it wasn't for Windows Recall I wouldn't have done it. I probably would have begrudgingly upgraded to 11. I've been using Windows PCs for over 25 years and this is the first time I've used a non-Microsoft OS. 

Now I have to get my family members on to Linux.

[Doublezero]

I made a thread about Linux here. Now back to Windows 11 bashing.

 

[Doublezero]

I got this popup while using Gimp this morning. Thanks for reminding me to upgrade to Linux, Microsoft.

 

[ritualclarity]

2 hours ago, Doublezero said:

I got this popup while using Gimp this morning. Thanks for reminding me to upgrade to Linux, Microsoft.

 

As I understand it. You can now use Windows for free. There are some limitations like can't change the desktop but you can use it and game with it.

For those games that need windows (anticheet for online games) 

@Doublezero you will be even more happy that windows reminded you to upgrade to Linux. I have heard through the grapevine that Steam OS (Linux based on Arch Linux a version of linux for those that might want to know) is going to release a public version of their OS like the one that they use on the Steam Deck.  Which plays many games that are "windowze" games.  A greater push like this h asn't happened that I am aware of in more than a decade since Wine was created for linux.

Soon many other gamers will be "remided" to upgrade to linux as well.  Here comes the penquin!

LOL

 

[Doublezero]

 

[ritualclarity]

On 1/14/2025 at 5:46 PM, Doublezero said:

 

What drugs are they on?  That be some serious drugs.  Just look at the web and all the complailnts about their changes pissing off customers.

I have been adding VMs to my gaming computer so that I can use differet linux etc. I have put in various Linux in about 30 minutes a piece. I have been trying to install windoze 11 for the past 4 hours. After about 3 hours of it updating (mind you from a fresh download image) 

The new setup process ask us our age and other bullshit and as near as I can tell there are no ways to create local accounts anymore. At least not until you bow and suck microsoft's d**k first.

Needless to say, in the end it failed and I was unable to acctually access the image. The time it took me to install several other OS's . .. some of which I never used or haven't used in years including customizations, to install a failed windoze OS.

Oh, my gaming machine welcomed me this morning when I booted it up with a interuption of my life asking, better telling me I need to do my backups.  If it isn't that it is making sure that I don't want to create a windoze account. Which it has one for the activations. I am using a local account for my day to day. this one is really asking constantly for me to create a new microsoft account. Soon I have no doubt that it will demand it.

It is getting so bad that I used to think just install a Linux and boot into a windoze when you needed it for the few games that run better on it like those that require anti cheet etc. Many game created for windows are suppose to run really good on Linux. However, it is getting so bad that I don't think we will even be able to do that going forward. I can't imagine the fucking hell Windoze 12 will be.

Another company with a shit easy job with shit eazy task fucking it up just because they want to fuck it up and have the deluions that they know better. Just like other companies do, they stand there dumbfounded why they are loosing buisness and people are pissed at them. People are running as fast and as far as humanily possible from their shitty products.

[Doublezero]

31 minutes ago, ritualclarity said:

The new setup process ask us our age and other bullshit and as near as I can tell there are no ways to create local accounts anymore.

Yup. There was a lot of chatter months ago that Microsoft was going to kill local accounts. They must think that people want AI in their OS so much that they are willing to ignore these changes because nothing else about their decisions makes sense to me.

The reality is that Microsoft (and Google) have peaked and are losing market share to competitors and they seem to be throwing ideas at the wall to see what sticks.

[ritualclarity]

You want fun? Seriously?

How about you try to create a new account now. The tools that they use to make sure you aren't a robot. (we know they are likely using this to train their AI of course). It is a pain in the but. Not like any of the other standard captas. 

They don't have to throw things at a wall to see what works. Just listen to what their customers are saying and read some post regarding the company and you will get a lot of good information all for free. No need to have any DEI consultants tell you all the "great" stuff you need to do to make your company better (worse of course) and loose you customers.

 

[ritualclarity]

https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/15/24344209/microsoft-365-office-apps-windows-10-end-of-support

They won't support their office options after Windows 10 end of life. This might sound normal and reasonable however, they charge for support and critical updates after this point.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/faq/extended-security-updates

If they are giving critical udpates and such for those that pay, don't you think that would include Microsoft Office 365 support? Being that buisnesses mosts likely would still use it with their Windows 10 OS.  If this is the case, then Microsoft can support the base OS with these updates to cover their Office suite through this time as well without any extra charge. Which means they are attempting to either force you to update to the newest OS or pay them $$$$ to use the old OS and get any support for it and Office.

The reason people still use the old OS is it came with their computer and they still want to use it as they bought it and not ready to upgrade or for many tech people, they HATE THE BULLSHIT that Microsoft is doing to the newer OS.Currently they have gamers over the barrel if they want reliable supported use of their games they buy. They have content creators often times stuck over the same barrel due to specialized software they need or drivers for devices that are only available for Windows (often getting support for the most current OS ) 

https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/windows-11-hits-30-adoption-and-its-about-time-so-is-microsofts-ai-gamble-finally-starting-to-pay-off

Even now as Windows 10 is being discontinued shortly Windows 11 has only reached around 30% as of August of last year. I'm sure that much of this is just that old Windows 10 machines died and new computers were bought to replace them. This is really bad in my opinion as this as far as I know, takes into consideration businesses purchases as well.

https://www.makeuseof.com/why-most-users-havent-upgraded-windows-11/

The above are reasons common computer users aren't moving to Windows  11.  For those that are like many here. The hoops and restrictions to local accounts and registeration, gaming performance (mentioned in the article) and other restrictions that weren't present on previous operating systems are our reasons. 

Keep in mind that many were on Windows 7 for many years when Windows 10 rolled out. For many they moved to Windows 10 when possible instead of just jumping to the most current OS like a Mac user or Linux user or even Android (for phone ) users would do. What would make common sence if Microsoft wasn't screwing up. One such occurance is why this thread was started in the first place.