Doublezero Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 This is funny. The latest Windows 11 build has a surprising bug — it gets rid of Copilot Quote The latest Windows 11 build has a surprising bug — it gets rid of Copilot Microsoft has updated the support page for the Windows 11 build it released last week to reveal a rather amusing bug — it seems to have caused some devices to automatically uninstall the Copilot app and unpin it from the taskbar. At the time of writing, Microsoft is still working on a resolution to the issue spotted by Windows Latest, recommending affected users reinstall the app and pin it back to the taskbar manually. It looks like the bug can occur on any device if it updates to build KB5053598 from Windows 11 24H2, 23H2, or 22H2, along with Windows 10 22H2 or 21H2. The funny thing about this bug is that it almost feels more like a feature for some users. Not everyone is excited about the AI PC future, and it’s annoying to have preinstalled AI assistants forced on you when you don’t want them. So while anti-AI users had to uninstall the app and unpin it from the taskbar manually until now — this new bug suddenly does the job for them. This won’t be enough to satisfy some of the Copilot haters out there, however — because uninstalling the app doesn’t actually get rid of the software. Right now, you can only disable Copilot on your PC, never delete it. This makes some people pretty angry — if you want to see just how much some Windows users hate Copilot and the fact that Microsoft forces it on them, just check out this Microsoft Community forum thread from last year. There are so many AI features creeping into our tech products lately, and there’s a significant number of people who aren’t happy about it (myself included). At some point, someone will realize there’s a market for AI-free alternatives to certain products and services — and I hope it’s soon. Quote
ritualclarity Posted March 17 Posted March 17 Now that is a Feature! LOL As with anything MIcrosoft... they will always mess up something good. They will soon "fix" this. (I.E. mess this up). Quote
Doublezero Posted March 18 Author Posted March 18 I found this email in my spam folder. Even Microsoft's own email service hates Windows 11. Spoiler What can I do with my old computer? Trade it in? To who? Ineligible computers become unusable. Quote "Deploying Windows 10 at this time is a bad idea," Chester Wisniewski, director and global field CISO for Sophos, told Tom's Hardware."The writing is on the wall. Microsoft has made the internal decision to obsolete this equipment, so I guess they just don't want more people to use Windows." Wisniewski notes that Windows 10 and Windows 11 share a largely common codebase, meaning vulnerabilities patched in one can often be exploited in the other. On recent Patch Tuesdays, dozens of vulnerabilities were addressed, with some already being exploited by criminals before fixes were available. Besides the security implications, charities that remain on Windows 10 must consider other risks, such as compliance. For instance, charity shops using Windows 10 for electronic point-of-sale systems will face potential compliance issues with regulations like GDPR once support ends. Non-compliance can result in significant fines, damaging the charity's reputation and financial stability. The good news for Microsoft shareholders is that the company should make a decent chunk of change from the people who are willing to pay for the Extended Security Update program. Quote Despite these concerns, many users will continue running Windows 10. According to Statcounter, Windows 10 still accounts for 58.7 percent of all Windows installations, compared to 38.1 percent for Windows 11. The likelihood of all these systems being upgraded or replaced by October is low, and even fewer users will opt for Microsoft's Extended Security Update program, which costs $61 per year. Or they will switch to Linux... Quote Tom's points out that charities like PCs for People are taking steps to avoid this issue. CEO Casey Sorensen explained that they discontinued distributing Windows 10 a year before the cutoff and now focus on Linux Mint for older systems. "We will distribute Linux laptops that are 6th or 7th gen. If we distribute a Windows laptop, it will be 8th gen or newer," Sorensen tells the publication. PCs for People refurbishes 140,000 PCs annually, offering affordable options to low-income individuals and sending older units to recyclers. Sorensen notes that attitudes toward Linux have changed over time. "Ten years ago, if we distributed Linux, they would be like 'What is it?'" he says. Today, many users view their computers primarily as gateways to the internet, making user-friendly Linux distributions like Mint more acceptable. However, Linux still lacks some popular applications, such as Microsoft Office and Slack, though alternatives are available. E-waste or Linux? Charities face tough choices as Windows 10 support ends | TechSpot 1 Quote
ritualclarity Posted March 18 Posted March 18 1 hour ago, Doublezero said: I found this email in my spam folder. Even Microsoft's own email service hates Windows 11. Hide contents What can I do with my old computer? Trade it in? To who? Ineligible computers become unusable. The good news for Microsoft shareholders is that the company should make a decent chunk of change from the people who are willing to pay for the Extended Security Update program. Or they will switch to Linux... E-waste or Linux? Charities face tough choices as Windows 10 support ends | TechSpot The thing about Outlook andn microsoft office apps is you can use a web based solution for most of your needs if you don't need the heavy lifting. For example in Outlook your mail works perfectly. If you want to archive using outlook you would need the app... or would you? You could create a free Googlel or other email account with storage and forward the emails to that instead for archival purposes. If you aren't required by regulations to archive a specific way or manner which generally those that work for major cooporations are effected by this. Excel works pretty well from what I read except for really compex multipage or lots of enbedded forumlas and such. If you use web based products I'd suggest checking into Google docs as it would keep your documents on the free storage of Google. No need to add the app to the Linux (or Windows or even Chrome) and you have access not only to the document program but the documents as well. Unless you have a security concern regarding your work then you would need to either create your own cloud server and use Linux apps. Good news with this is there are lots of very good tools to create a very secure cloud server in Linux. (or so I have read. I don't have enough shit to need it lol) The bottom line is unless you are using these tools professionally you generally don't need to use Microsoft office applications. If you are, generally you are provided with a machine with the programs installed from I.T. Generally you wouldn't be advised to do personal work on it considering someone else owns that laptop. Generally there isn't a real need for Microsoft for the general public beyond online PC gaming or modding. If it wasn't the need to have easy access to my games I spent lots of $$$ on (some of which don't run well or at all on Linux currently at least) I wouldn't even have my gaming machine. All my other machines are either linux or google chrome. (I use the Chrome for my Google work since they have access to it and leave my Linux seperate to do stuff that I don't want Google to access) I have been using Google for my work emails for the past 2 years. Using web outlook. No problems. I have had some issues with some of the more complex spread sheets but converting over to Google doc (easy and reasonably quick process) handles many of those issues. I'm looking forward to a mass influx of old computers (again) as I used this last time when windoze whent from 10 to 11. This I expect will be even bigger. If I am lucky, Servers will be retired. (not as likely because I.T. generally uses the better OS ... Linux... to run on them) One can dream! 1 Quote
ritualclarity Posted March 18 Posted March 18 Spoiler 1 hour ago, Doublezero said: If Microsoft can't get there crap together then possibly try the below. You can use web, but an email client downloads your emails to your computer which helps keep your emails safe. Quote
Doublezero Posted March 18 Author Posted March 18 The problem with Outlook is that Microsoft makes more money shoving ads in your face with the inferior version than they do selling the better product. They track what you're browsing in Edge and show you ads relevant to what you're browsing for in the new ad-laden Outlook. I was going to switch to Thunderbird anyway, I want to use as little Microsoft software as possible, but I'm going to take the extra step of ditching their email service. They even put ads in the webmail version of Outlook, and lately they have been sending email from sources that they themselves mark as trusted senders to the Junk folder, including my bank! 8 hours ago, ritualclarity said: Generally there isn't a real need for Microsoft for the general public beyond online PC gaming or modding. I'm beginning to think that Microsoft is shooting itself in the foot with all these Windows shenanigans. Linux is a viable alternative to Windows for the average PC user, and it just needs a catalyst to get people using it. 1 Quote
ritualclarity Posted March 18 Posted March 18 2 hours ago, Doublezero said: The problem with Outlook is that Microsoft makes more money shoving ads in your face with the inferior version than they do selling the better product. They track what you're browsing in Edge and show you ads relevant to what you're browsing for in the new ad-laden Outlook. I was going to switch to Thunderbird anyway, I want to use as little Microsoft software as possible, but I'm going to take the extra step of ditching their email service. They even put ads in the webmail version of Outlook, and lately they have been sending email from sources that they themselves mark as trusted senders to the Junk folder, including my bank! I'm beginning to think that Microsoft is shooting itself in the foot with all these Windows shenanigans. Linux is a viable alternative to Windows for the average PC user, and it just needs a catalyst to get people using it. Wow. I didn't know that they were that bad. (The ads in the browser version of Outlook) I don't have that in my outlook but that is work related and likely the cause that I don't get the ads in it. I don't use and never used Outlook for personal email. I mostly used Google. In the past I used Compuserve until they just up and decided that I don't have an email anymore. This was when the were still active and popular! After they also tried to do a money grab (paid email) if I recall correctly. I agree they are really being stupid and shooting themselves in the foot. ... actually their heads as they are going to kill themselves. I don't understand why companies aren't moving to linux more for their day to day activities, they use POS stations which are generally Linux, their servers are ... again Linux ... generally as a rule. The only reason I can think they don't is less support specialist available and Windoze generally comes on the computers they buy. They can buy Linux computers from Dell and other companies but that takes more effor I believe. I just thought of another possiblity. Some of thir software is paid and they need the features of that software. Which for the amounts that they pay if they wanted they could help fund development of open sourced equivalant software to cover the needs. If they don't like the GUI that can be changed easily as well. Lord know Linux is more secure. Even if it did become the mainstream softare, it's design is more secure. You can even make it look like Windoze 11! LOL. Quote
ritualclarity Posted March 19 Posted March 19 11 hours ago, Doublezero said: Time to chang to Linux now? lol Quote
Doublezero Posted 7 minutes ago Author Posted 7 minutes ago Who's the worst offender? I think we all know. Quote
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