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Add on top of that that the actual company listens,

That alone is a win in itself. If I played it I would like to play with myself... lol. (not have it on a server or if it was on a server it was on someone I knew) Speaking of servers... wonder if someone here would like to set one up? It might be cool for members to be able to play the game together and such.

It is nice that there is a slow growing mod scene. I like it when it slowly grows in the beginning. It makes me feel as if they are doing it as needed and I believe those individuals and others will stick around for the long haul (or be more likely to) Not popping in for some quick fame.

5 hours ago, zilvradrow said:

Falco a.k.a. Johann Hoelzel, was  a very popular Austrian Songwriter/Singer/Entertainer. *1957 Vienna, died 1998 in Puerto Plata by an accident.  Here's part two . For more Infos look here 

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It is always interesting to listen to popular music from other places from time to time.

Classic song.

Nice touch giving us the different renditions of the song.

I am kind of partial to the muddy waters version myself. That song lends itself to blues etc better IMO

One way to keep CDPR true to its origin is to constantly tell the world how much you love the company, its products and its culture. Doing this and keeping them informed of the feelings of the vast majority of their customer base would help in my opinion. so long as the management team is in effect there I believe they will continue to do what they do the way they do it. I don't have delusions, I know there will be games that aren't quite what I want or might be below expectations, however, they have had this in the past and they have improved game, over game, over game and show a constant striving to better themselves. So if something is lower than expected or there are issues, this shows through that they are honest and have integrity and will strive to do better and better as time goes on. This is probably one of the best aspects a company can show their consumers.

I am getting a bit concerned with their growth and more dev teams, as much as I am getting excited at the aspect that there will be more selection of games and they will come faster and faster. My concern is the aspect of growth does make management a challenge as the current group of leaders get thinned out. I truly hope that they hire the right people and develop them properly to extend the same culture and not thin it out. Bethesda in its early days of Morrowwind etc, had this to some degree or another and as they grew they lost touch and once other companies took over... it was gone. It is difficult to keep the spark going in situations like that.  .If they can do this... then CDPR is going to be great for a very, very long time.

3 hours ago, Doublezero said:

They can but they won't. They want the mods to be available for every possible platform for maximum profits. Plus, we saw how Playstation 3 owners reacted when they didn't get the Skyrim DLCs at the same time as the Xbox 360 and Playstation 4 owners when Sony rejected mods the first time around.

I don't see Creation Club by itself hurting PC modding unless they allow stolen assets in mods. My biggest concern is that it becomes extremely successful and Bethesda decides to release the Creation Kit only for modders who are accepted in the Creation Club for future games. I'm not convinced that will happen yet. I don't see it being successful for them.

I don't see them only releasing the CC for those accepted into the Creation Club. However, based on what they have done, this might be the case if they get really stupid. I do see them only releasing the CK for those that belong to their Site/Club etc and are members.

As for the difference. Honestly it isn't the fault of Bethesda (one of the few times it isn't) that there is a limit for Xbox, or a stronger one for Play Station. There are easy ways around this aspect. In reality I suspect even if they had larger record counts and allowed true "DLC Sized" content which wouldn't fit on the consoles, there will be a plenitude of simple armor mods or small groups of armor mods. There are people on the mod sites for them that make an real effort to get their stuff on Xbox and even try to address their customers. If this was done correctly with some small royalties, the bug fixes and even smaller markets like Sony's Playstation would be covered. Think of it this way. You created many single armors. If you got a few cents for 1000's of armors that would really add up in time for something you were already creating for another, yet larger mod. It is a simple thing to pull some of the best armors and other content out to give to the consoles. The only way for them (Bethesda) to really make this a success and really make a dent is to address the PC market directly and allow the "chips to fall where they may".

In time and with this being certified content from Bethesda (them taking responsibility for it) Sony might indeed open up more availability for this. after all it is "official content". Maybe not now on the current system. There might be some technical issue with this hardware/software wise however, very possible going forward. It is only going to benifit Sony (and Xbox) to open up to more of this type of content and become more flexible. They have a large share of the market and growing by the day. That combined with the push to be able to be cross platform for games then you have essentially the ability to have freedom for whichever hardware selection you choose from consoles or PCs and be able to play the games. Ideally this would be the next step in the direction for consoles.

10 hours ago, endgameaddiction said:

 

Nice,touch. 4th wall break. A bit corny at the end but ... how many other companies will take time out to do such a simple but really special thing for their customers?

The new Witcher game wouldn't be the same without Geralt. Also it is very difficult to catch the feeling and excitement when creating a game in the universe that was part of our favorite games. It is very risky. I wonder how  they will do this. Perhaps a prequel to a time before Geralt. Perhaps another witcher and his/her experience in an ever more modern world, where magic and such is a very rare occurrence covered up by the governments and other entities (churches and such) and the very nature of him/her and the  work they do is to be kept secret... Or, another conjunction with fresh experiences and horrors and the need to start the horrible experiences again and new Witchers are created (perhaps this time where you could create your own witcher using the sex, school and perhaps even race... there are mentions of possibility of elves being witchers in the past per the game)  Time will tell. I have a fair amount of confidence that they will do a great job at whatever they do r/t this.

9 hours ago, Doublezero said:

Wont happen. Bethesda doesn't want to Q&A large mods as they're bound to have a ton of bugs as well as platform specific bugs that would need to be ironed out. And then there's the issue the with mod size limit that's on consoles which some speculate is the reason why they shove all of the meshes and textures for Creation Club mods onto the user's hard drive during updates.

Bethesda is stupid. They don't understand why mods flourished on the PC and now they're trying to make them available on closed systems that has limitations and restrictions.

They could easily name or catagorize the mods to specific platform (in the case above to PC) due to the ability to hold larger contents etc, etc. Nobody states that they have to have the same mod for all three or more (in the future) editions. They are the ones that are trying to do this and it won't work well. They will starve the PC market.... causing the drive to create mods to diminish and in the end harm their bottom line by lowering the interest in future Bethesda games except from console gamers which most aren't (that is dedicated) skilled in modding and if they are, they aren't' interested.

There is great interest in Fallout NV and Skyrim not becuase of consoles but because of the back end scripting being so mature. (Extention and other tools) Without PC development to drive that the mods and interest will be lower IMO. The case in point is Skyrim SE and Fallout 4. It is nowhere near where FNV, Skyrim was at this time in its release.

5 hours ago, endgameaddiction said:

Bethesda thinks so backwards. I would of thought someone like Gopher would of been in on CC. Anime follower mods would generate more revenue than retextures. Just look at Nexus and the top voted mod right now even though that'll change soon.

And rumor has it Elianora is in CC. Well I'll be damn. Sure never would of expected that... And here's what's funny that I came to conclusions why there's no credit on CC mods by the authors. I figured modders like Elianora who have a patreon account would be in this CC bandwagon and, I thought for a moment that maybe they were given the option to not have credits displayed for their own safety. Considering if this were to be true, modders like Elianora would be getting paid by Beth and her snowflake fans who support her jobless lazy ass through patreon.

Gopher was on the CC bandwagon. It wasn't until the bait and switch that was done that he lost his mind. Remember the comments of "DLC sized"? What we didn't realize is we were thinking of large ones not the size of the horse armor in Oblivion days. They are doing exactly what they stated, however, they misslead everybody. There double speak is epic. Many "fan boys" have lost their mind for various reasons with the final result of this project he isn't alone in this matter.

Shame of it is/was is that they could have done something great with this. Like much of other things they have done, great opportunities are literately fucked over in the worst way each and every time. For example, increase the size of the CC content max, not to auto download so that someone from fucking reddit or elesewhere could "legally" create a esp to access the content which was essentially give away for free (forced download) A bit of money up front while working on the mod and if the author is successful in the CC field they could be offered an elevated position where they get some sort of royalties. A small percentage of the sales, not much but very likely more than they could get from Patrion. (3~5% of sales after x %) or other changes. Any improvement on what they did would have been much better than this.

7 hours ago, endgameaddiction said:

Friendly warning: There will be blood. No I'm not kidding. It's fucking gross as fuck just like all these ugly ass feminists.

It isn't like "real artist" haven't used blood, urine and other bodily fluids to create art. It isn't an original idea. Andres Serrano did this as well many, many years ago.

It is ashame that they are doing it for attention to themselves, as opposed to attention to the art itself, meaning behind the art, the emotions created from viewing the art (face value) etc, etc. It appears to me at least it is just attention getting and not really worth anyone's time.

4 hours ago, Kendo 2 said:

And here I thought I was the only one who caught onto what Gopher was doing.

 

Gopher was just understanding what was being "sold" to us. He looked at the upsides which if Bethesda did what they stated they would do (more than 4000 records) etc.

He is as much as many of us feeling seriously lied to. Not all of us had the foresight that some of us have. Some didn't see this coming even though there was serious hints that this was coming. Now, the other shoe dropped and now everybody even the Bethesda Fan boy that loved and adored Bethesda and their offerings is now realizing Bethesda isn't the "golden" company that those fans thought it was.

I am interested in seeing how his long term reaction will be now that he can clearly see what Bethesda is really like and what they think of their customers and the  modding community which includes him as he is an established Bethesda modder in his own right.

9 hours ago, endgameaddiction said:

I was cautious at first since I have the tendency to be very up front. Or rather, very honest. I didn't want to cross the line so I didn't know (for sure) what was permitted. But I began to understand that NSFWmods is a place where the rules apply to everyone and everyone is on the same playing field. We won't always agree with every single thing, but for the most part (up till now) we've all pretty much been on the same level of thought. I certainly have nothing against anyone with a different opinion as long as they have valid points and not just "you're a troll" "you're a hater".

 

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To be critical, the way LL has been moderated the past few years, they are catering to safe space and encouraging people to be cowards rather than challenging. This is LL alone. And then people wonder why SJWs exist. They treat them with this kind of condition and people don't know how to defend themselves. They result to crying and running to mommy as grown men.

 

^ Above is a very good explanation of our processes from a member's perspective (not stated by ourselves) we live up to that.

6 hours ago, bjornk said:

It's my type of forum then.

 

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LL and their double standards... You get insulted and mods do nothing, insult back and you immediately get a warning. They've been deleting my posts or editing out parts that they don't like, they've even deleted an entire thread and you know how they always find a suitable "rule" as an excuse. I'm also aware that they've (well, one guy actually and you know who) specifically been picking on the people they don't like. They've even given me a permanent warning for "protesting openly" and even deleted my signature which was slightly critical of the self-proclaimed "porn site". This is quite literally insulting behavior which I can no longer tolerate. I'm done contributing to a forum which keeps insulting me. I've been there for five years and helped and contributed significantly, well, at least to my standards, it's over now.

 

We as far as I know haven't deleted or edited anything without the owners understanding of the reason, and those times it was due to those issues which Kendo stated above. If anything has been changed there is a different color text and a very explicit explanation. (one example is the Skyrim Tutorial and that was only done with permission from the author )

This has lead to a very healthy,open and accepting community. We intend to keep it this way as long as we are involved in the matter. Furthermore we have no problem with someone taking a conversation or issue PM to discuss some issue further (for better clarification or such) on almost any matter.

Finally, we are unconcerned with levels of activity (more,less don't matter) We have no goals to become large or "popular' we just want to be a very pleasant site to go to to discuss games and similar subjects. It is completely up to the member what level of activity they wish to engage in (unlike others sites)

On 3/9/2017 at 10:40 AM, Kendo 2 said:

Not allowed to use the word 'fag' here...oh wait...yeah you are.  And we're doing fine in our tiny corner of the internet.  How are you, fudgepack?

You aren't allowed to use those words here if you will cry and have a fit because someone gives you back as hard as you give

On 3/9/2017 at 11:43 AM, Karma199696 said:

welcome junkacc 

 

may i suggest you guys create a dictionary somewhere in the site with the meaning of all those slang worlds for those (like me) that not being american can't understand them ??

such as : wanking (this i think i can guess), fags, fudgepack...

Don't worry Karma, sorry I missed this somehow. In any case if you, or others, miss some word or slang, just ask for clarification of the term. Someone should be able to help clarify it. I don't consider that derailing the thread as everybody needs to understand the conversation as much as possible. To be honest I don't know most of the colorful terms that Kendo comes up with...He is a regular slang libary.. lol

Carifications to the words given above ... to the best of my ability... not sure on the last one.

2 minutes ago, bjornk said:

Perhaps they thought moderation would be a bit more decent compared to what we had back at LL, but we'll see about that...:)

They were so wrong.... Oh we are so terrible... horrible. The worst experiences you will ever have on a site in your life.... run, run fast as you can

In any case, glad to see you here and hope you have a fun time here and enjoy yourself.

6 minutes ago, bjornk said:

One major problem for Bethesda about the Paid Mods v1.0 was Steam's cut, which was 25% IIRC. Now with the Club, they have eliminated that problem. More money for Bethesda... Bet they think they are quite clever...

How did you do that? By tweaking the folder permissions? I've placed something into the Steam folder to prevent client updates, but I guess it wouldn't help in this case.

Yes, I think we need to know how you successfully completed this so that we can do it as well.

17 minutes ago, bjornk said:

Hi, I'm bjornk, the "Skeever Butt", from Loverslab, where some people also call me "hater", "toxic" etc. among other names... Some of my friends from Loverslab recommended this place, so here I am... Better late than never, I guess...

Why would anyone recommend you to come to this site lol

Wait... I know what is going on...

The  Board of Directors on EA and the individual divisions are having a contest. The contest is who can do the most stupid thing possible. In my opinion MEA's people is doing the most stupid things but Bethesda is not to be trifled with, they will surprise us with the levels of stupidity that they can go to. However, lets be honest, blaming their customers complaints for the reason they killed multi million dollar franchise when they were responsible for releasing an unfinished game... that is pretty much the heights of stupidity IMO. It will be very hard for Bethesda to beat that.

54 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said:

Glad I never 'upgraded' 32bitSkyrim to Special Edition.  If they bloated FO4 then they'll do the same thing to 64bitSkyrim.  Never had a reason to switch and now I REALLY DON'T.  They can keep their extra gigs of content I'd never want or use.

i guess I need to go into my Skyrim folders and deny Steam access like I did for New Vegas.  They're done with the game so they have no reason to update it, now do they?

Steam automatically gives you the Skyrim SE if you have all the DLCs or GOTY when it was released. At least as far as I know.

So far this crap hasn't happened to either of the Skyrims. I don't believe it will happen to the old Skyrim however I do believe it will be rolled out to Skryim SE however that will be some time and you don't have it so you are safe. (since you also don't have Fallout 4 installed, however, I wouldn't put it past them to make the game auto load based on what is going on now... just kidding.. lol however, .... um... they couldn't be that stupid... wait... they have done lots of very stupid things so far... now I am scared. :P)

Update;

Checked and there are no CC crap mods added to either Skyrim edition ... so far. I verified cache and double checked.

52 minutes ago, Doublezero said:

Bethesda's digging their own grave. Someone points out an issue with Creation Club and gets banned; a staunch supporter too.

Good luck getting console users to buy mods on Creation Club when they have to download a ton of files they don't need. Xbone has big time space issues when dealing with forced game installs and updates.

The mods are pre-downloaded as I understand it. Good luck on being able to install many more games due to the limited space the Xbone has and due to the amount of mods that will be shoved into your xbone so that you can pay and instantly have access to the mods.. sorry... um... Creation Content. Please don't ban me for making a mistake in terminology...

1 hour ago, Kendo 2 said:

Huh...Bethesda bans a Creation Club proponent...huh...

 

49 minutes ago, Doublezero said:

Bethesda's digging their own grave. Someone points out an issue with Creation Club and gets banned; a staunch supporter too.

Good luck getting console users to buy mods on Creation Club when they have to download a ton of files they don't need. Xbone has big time space issues when dealing with forced game installs and updates.

Wow... a console user and an advocate of their company. (one of the few) A female gamer, video blogger, etc banned for pointing out a concern she had.

Oh and now there is a nice wake up that most mod authors don't realize (at least many don't including the above blogger) is this process they OWN YOUR MOD when you work with them.  Guess they will be richer from the massive amounts of money that they won't have to pay her for her contribution.

What most people are missing is the wording that Bethesda has for their CC.

When they state that it has to be "new" content they never stated that alternatives which are similar or even the same wasn't going to be available. They likely intended that statement to stand as ... the current mods wouldn't be accepted into the program. It is semantics but, I can see them thinking that way.

I have looked at Loverslab post etc, but don't go to read Nexus. I don't find anything useful (usually) there. Sometimes I find some useful info at Lovers (DoctaSax posted the Gopher review video which was quite informative and posted before the same info here.)

I wouldn't call it wet farting sounds. I would akin it more like this

Fallout 4... with everything is LARGE.

Adding the CC content only adds to this. Imagine having a near 100mb game on a gaming laptop with an SSD.

You would be only able to play one game or so on most currently sold gaming laptops. Most have SSD but they are 256 or maybe 512 if lucky. That sucks up quite a bit of space and this is before any added files. Before F4SE, tools, mods etc. Just the entire Fallout 4 options and CC content (verified cache) nothing else.

Modern games are large by standard, however, it isn't beneficial to blow that up with crap that you might or might not need. It is DLC type content. "Official Content" then fine. Cool. Don't give a dam. However, they should treat this content as they do the other content like the High Texture pack etc. In Steam you can unclick it and ... *poof* it is gone from your game folder. There is no unclick, no remove etc. If you delete it you have to do so manually and if you ever have to re-verify the cache not only will you have to download any damaged files you will have to download (currently >600mb) files which you have no use for. There is no ability to avoid this.

Needless to say this sucks.

Yea, which is so stupid that they "give" you the files when you never signed up for the program. lol. 

I repurchased the game so I had the first version (EULA etc) So your Eula would be the one I was covered by. Funny thing is I can't find the file. I can find files for EULA from other games but not Fallout 4

They have a whole different thing when you try to sign up for the Creators club. It is pages and pages (scrolling) of content. 

Dam,

my last NDR /Non Compete documentation had less content and conditions...  

Slight off topic... 

Dam I really wish Cyberpunk was released.  I really want a new game to play. Board alien isn't an happy alien.

1 minute ago, Kendo 2 said:

FO4 EULA version 0 (what I agreed to when I installed the game in 2015).

Where did you get that from? I will see if I can get the current copy.