Sounds good to me. I don't see a problem with it. It is a mod. Not the game. A user could fire this up, explore the story and quest as many times as they feel like and then uninstall it. Go back to it anytime new content is created for it. Not a problem. Really, I don't see it as a problem. You are giving a disclaimer as to the style you are following so that the consumer/user is fully informed. that is really all any user can and should ask of the author. If, it is a type of mod that the user really dislikes, they can move on to another mod. However, I'd advise them to give it a try anyway to see. From what I have been privileged to see, I can say it is singularly unique and interesting mod. Worth a check at least

3 hours ago, Kendo 2 said:

Okay. I didn't know that Bethesda Softworks had set up an actual carnival at E3.  I thought 'Bethesdaland' was just a bit on their video.  I guess they didn't see the irony of 'separating a mark and his money' when they trotted out the Creation Club with a real fucking carnival as a backdrop.  Micro-transactions made by modders, that's what the Creation Club is.

"A foole and his money be soone at debate: which after with sorow repents him too late."
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"There's a sucker born every minute."
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Or, as I see it...

They know exactly what they are doing. They know that there are consumers out there that will eat whatever crap they give. They are large enough to start doing this with enough IP that they won't have much competition so they don't give a dam.

Likely it is their ultimate goal to remove the content that "some sites" produce as they will make the mod making process only be able to be done through them. They will sell this as a "Quality Control" measure which will force the mod authors to only deal with their site. Meaning that more possible tallent will be sucked up into their "black hole" of modding.

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As for the E3 show itself. Watched most of it, but the video lags. Audio keeps playing while the video itself lags. So eventually I just gave up watching the rest of it.

You didn't miss much.. just them patting themselves on the back for their "creativity" on creating a "VR" version of games they already have and figuring out how to get paid mods through. This time they will try to get the best talent to their site to make $$$... and take them away from the community that is the very reason they are as big as they are now.

I seriously doubt that this will "bring in talent" to the modding scene even if it is paid. More likely it will drive more out of the modding of their games like before. I hope I am wrong on this but I seriously doubt it.

I am more on Kendo's side of the fence. I am not interested in what they are releasing and doing. It would have to be a game that totally blew me away in video streaming, reviews and such before I would even consider it. Even then, it would be on my wish list and it would wait until it was a great price (extremely low) more than not.

I never buy games new except Fallout, Mass Effect, and now CD Project games. I bought the Fallout series due to how much value I gotten out of the previous ones Fallout 3, Fallout NV etc. I waited until Skyrim was 50% off before I got it for example... Not interested in it as much as the Fallout Universe. The same goes for Mass Effect franchise. I had such fun and so much value returned on my investment I was willing to go out and get it right off the bat. We all know what happened to the latest Fallout and Mass Effect. Fallout 4, I got something out of it, not as much as I want and I hope it will continue to be developed with mods that will bring me back to have some more use of the game and Mass Effect Assdromda, well I tried to re-start it 3 times and never gotten past the third planet if I remember correctly. I just couldn't finish the game. So far that is the single game I have started, played more than an hour and never finished. I wanted to finish it. I tried to finish it, but I just couldn't stand to finish it. It was that bad.

I can't tell you that I'd never buy a Bethesda/EA game again... but I can tell you it won't be at full price, pre-order etc. It will be on substantial sales or have completely blown me away after serious and deep research. ... Even then I'd have to be totally board to shit and have a want to play a game but not any I currently have. (BTW I have close to 130 Steam games and about 5~8 Origin games 3 being Witcher games Two of which I haven't even started yet... so guess how long it will be before I get another Bethesda game lol.

21 hours ago, JoshQ said:

Making stuff for Sims 4 is easier (at least the stockings part) and the tools are more advanced, the problem is the game still lacks compared to S3 and EA has a lot of bugs to fix plus other things so is just a matter of patience.

thanks as always for the explanation.

My comment was more along the lines that Sims 3 seems to have a more mature modding community. Might not be as advanced but more refined...

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and it will be nothing but slogging from quest to quest to finish a story written by high-schoolers on Vine.

dyslexic high schoolers on Vine.

Truth be told.. CD Red doesn't need mods created for it. Perhaps a few small play style mods, an armor or something but really they don't need the level of mod content creation that a Bethesda game needs.

The only other game I have played as much as my modded games are Mass Effect i and Mass Effect II. These didn't need mods just a few DLCs and I was good to go for hours of play. Mass Effect Andromida is dead, the series is dead for me. I doubt they could do anything now that would get me to buy another one. Mass Effect Andromeda is the only "A" level game I bought that I haven't been able to finish. I even finished Fallout 4 after they put like 40 gb of patches into it.

I am happy and content with the direction that Project CD Red is going in and have no interest in pushing them into features or modding that they aren't confortable in doing. I appreciate their dedication and attention to details and want them to continue even if ithat means I can't mod it or do other things I could do with a crapy Bethesda game. With a Bethesda game.... Modding is required. Now with "Club Creation" they will take the best of the best from the main forums and sights and create paid mods in the process. Mini Paid DLCs is my guess. Meaning your game play just got very $$$$. No thanks. I won't get a game until it is at a minimum of 5 dollars or less if I have to pay 40 dollars for the mods to make it playable. So Bethesda... you just fucked yourself pretty badly if others follow suit.

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OF COURSE there are dumb-asses who will, and that's what companies like Zenimax/Bethesda are banking on

Yes, here, I am a dumb ass. I said it. I bought Fallout 4 and regretted it but got enough out of it to say I got my monies worth... flash forward to Mass Effect Andromida... thinking the same formula and that they'd fix the bugs and shit and I'd have a good game etc... NOPE... I got fucked badly on that. There I said it.

Yes, Kendo you are right there will be dumb asses that will do this however, there are a few that will learn the first time a spiked 3 foot dildo is shoved up their ass from a game that is completely unplayable, UN-enjoyable, and just a chore to complete even one time. Even those dumb asses will wake up quickly and stop per-paying, buying on release, season passes etc.

Hopefully there are many out there that don't like to get fucked over and learn from their mistake. Hopefully, if there are some here that read this, will learn from my mistake and not buy that shit early on. Don't give in to the hype, crap stories and threats that the season pass will go up if you don't get it now. It is a better chance that the game will be a shit show if from EA/Bethesda etc than something great.

Project CD Red is the only company that I believe is trustworthy of per-purchase... however, stilil I will wait until the embargo has been lifted and I can get some good reviews. I can still support them very well and get it early on and they can get $$$ from me.

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Once this Creation Club thing goes full tilt the Zenimax lawyers will come out of the woodwork armed with DMCA takedowns and fans sites that provide a platform will be their hunting grounds.  If those lawyers see a 'support me on Paetron' link and the modder has Bethesda IP locked behind a paywall or in a 'donor's only area', they will attack.  It will be like the demonetization wave that happened at Youtube a few months ago, but on a smaller scale.

If it is good content that they want... they will likely give them an alternitive... they will likely tell them they have to use their services to distribute the mod and take a small cut of the profits. (likely less than they were getting before) or be taken down. Who knows, maybe even sued because, correct me if I am wrong, at that time there would be potential money lost as mods are now a profit stream for Bethesda...

Pretty cool if done completely.

Comments...

Good job Karma asking that question. I never thought it was possible or at least easy. Kendo states it is possible then it is

I am sure there are others that would like that added to spanking if/when added to a mod (this one or others) Good that you brought it up.

Dam, wish I gotten the Sims 3 instead of Sims 4...

11 minutes ago, Karma199696 said:

oh... talking about spanking reminded me a question i always wanted to ask...  would be possible make ass-cheeks get red when spanked ?

i suppose yes, since there's a mod that makes you blush when aroused, so it should be applicable to ass too (for different cause)... but nobody ever bothered doing it...  wonder why... maybe too difficult ?

I am not sure but I believe there are face mask (layers) that can be added and changed. Reason why you can have face paint. The ass... don't have "ass mask" so I don't think you could do that like you could with the face. It would also likely require a custom body/texture etc that would limit the users choices to do so if done. Of course I could be completely missing the concept

32 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said:

UPDATE:

Just finished the 3rd quest of a 5 quest arc.  I've made a lot of changes so I'm going to start a new game and do a new mod play-through.  IF everything works as intended the mod might be ready for beta testing as soon as next week.  Making this mod is my new hobby.

Even in its very early Alpha form with the occasional expected glitch and or issue, it is a singularly unique mod. I haven't seen, played, or heard of  any mod that is like this one. If you have gotten tired of banging the entirety of Skyrim regardless of race, or species and are looking at something that has a story and meaning to it, of an adult nature,  this might just be your mod.

If you want random mindless sex where your character bangs everything in sight, stick with Sexlab's Matchmaker or Random Sex mod.

1 hour ago, Kendo 2 said:

Ritual Clarity is helping me iron out a few bugs and glitches.  That really helps speed up the process of getting the mod ready for an early beta test.

5 minutes ago, Karma199696 said:

no, i don't keep saved games... i quite quickly get bored of playing the same character, so i delete saved games, decide which mods i want to remove, keep (update if necessary) or add...  then start a new game and create a new character...  that's why i hate the start sequence, too long and i'd see it too often

Then save right after escape from Helgan. Escape from the cave and watch the dragon fly overhead. Create a hard save (or whatever) then use that to start from. Just change the appearance using command and you should be fine. If you like you can even create bat file to add items to the chracter or add them personal using the command and item # ...a bit advanced but will give you the desired results of not having to live through the intro and useful as you won't need to use Alternate life either.

23 hours ago, Kendo 2 said:

UPDATE:

I'm maybe a quarter of the way through finishing the second quest in the mod.  I have no idea how many quests there will be but I have a story overview syllabus and I'm sticking to to it.  I'm not going to let mod-creep kill the mod.

Finished a short dialogue quest the player can have with one of the carriage drivers.  It doesn't do anything, just adds dialogue and gives the mod a sense of being a real part of Skyrim.  It's for mod flavor and background.

Also finished the world interactions dialogue quest for generic NPCs commenting on the player being collared and naked at the same time.  The comments will only be said by a certain NPCs with the right voice type and some of the comments will only occur in specific locations, like orc strongholds.  In some instances the NPCs might rape the player, but this is controlled by NPC arousal, aggression level, confidence, and morality.  The rape won't occur as often as with a mod like Dangerously Nude, where it happens almost every game hour with that mod installed.  I've restricted it to NPCs the game rates as 'the type' to do it.  The biggest risks will be around Hirelings and Followers who aren't in your party, in orc strong holds and maybe from wandering Thalmor patrols.  The baseline for an NPC to rape is (Aroused =>40, Aggression ==1, Confidence >=2, Morality ==0).  So, only certain NPCs will molest the player, not everyone able to comment.

Sounds awesome... !

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usually i select starts like being left for dead

I use the left for dead quite a bit as well. Also might fit in the story just as well with less troubles or issues with the conversations? Maybe?

If you are only altering your profile for updates of Kendos mod you should be safe. If there was a major change then you'd likely need a clean save which isn't as easy as before but I suspect what Kendo is doing would be easy to clean a save. You should be OK.

Just in case, you do have different saves for different profiles setup correct? Each profile has their own set of saves in other words. If not you really need to set that up you are loosing one of the best features of MO. Just putting that out in case. I doubt you are running the same set of saves for all profiles.

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Having DD and DD mods installed shouldn't cause any problems with my mod, provided you STAY AWAY from what triggers those mods in the game.

Yea... right... like smoking a joint and not inhailing.

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For the dialogue, NPCs will be talking about you being captured by Imperials at DarkWater Crossing and eventually you'll be sent there to look for clues.  So even if LAL gives you a fancy house in Solitude and make you Queen of Skyrim people in the game won't acknowledge that.  And the vanilla Helgen isn't THAT bad.  It takes less than 20 minutes to complete.  Also, the mod assumes you will go to Riverwood and then Whiterun when the game starts.  LAL will make no sense, but hey...your game so play it the way you like it.

Also consider that is ONE time that you have to do this. You can save sometime after the chopping block or whatever and go back to that save later. (Unless I am wrong Kendo correct me :)) so in reality it is even less an issue having this start. I used a save from exiting the cave in Skyrim for well over a year before Another life etc was used. Simple, easy, direct and reasonably reliable. If you use MO just have a profile for this. Create a nice start. Get past that point, make copies and have at it and explore all the options that will be provided. YOu can still keep your DD play and setup for those times you need a little TLC...

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Once I'm done with the mod and I KNOW it works for most people I'll look into doing a LAL addon where the player starts in Riverwood.  I could make that fit in with the story I'm doing.

Yea... !!!!

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Once I'm done with the mod and I KNOW it works for most people I'll look into doing a LAL addon where the player starts in Riverwood.  I could make that fit in with the story I'm doing.

Yes... Also really? Who needs either of those two. Perhaps for the original idea the one you choose to team up with will use you at the end after exit...   At least then Helgan might be worth it... lol

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atomic Dwemer butt plugs

WTF!!! LOL

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Everything else is about making the character's life a living hell and the game gets dull REAL fast when that's happening.

Yea, reason I never used it or at least not for long enough to even remember using it.

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It was sort of response to your post but I knew that question or notion would come up eventually about DD and other stuff.  I just wanted to make it clear I'm not making a DD type mod.  What I'm doing is NEW.

I thought that was the case. I was thinking the same thing but didn't word it correctly.. This is a good thing. Something new for an old game. Something that gives more story for those that might like some of the features or such of DD but want more substance. However, If I understand it correctly DD was intended to be a framework so it not having a deep story isn't really the author's fault... correct? It is just that the user base was do busy being "used" to make more substantial content ... story wise that is.

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I'll do a 'Recommended Mods List' when the time comes.

Cool, that will be useful as well.

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THAT is exactly what I'm doing; one of my comics but in the form of a Skyrim quest mod.  Couldn't have explained it better myself.

Hey, what do you know, I didn't trip across my tongue... um.. typewriter this time...

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Players running around with devices locked on to them isn't part of what I'm trying to accomplish and it makes absolutely no sense in my story's context. 

I never did get into DD. Can't remember if I even ever had it installed. I might have had it installed for a very, very short time testing it for a bit but for the most part ... nope. Not interested. I am interested if doing something like that, with a real story with depth and such not just having tings stuck to someone. I even quickly got board with Submit.

If your comment was in response to mine... I wasn't asking that. I was wondering if someone was playing with your mod, gotten use to the story etc and seen or thought of some interesting additions or episodes for it, would be be interested? Sometimes I confuse my own self when I write something. A DD like episode but in line with the rest of the story. A suggestion, thought,etc.

Once you get a few episodes in, I'll have to play it. I assume it don't require much.  (requirement list)

( I have to check it out at least once... I still remember your comics you created before ... :D) If this is any indication... It willl be Epic!!

@Karma199696I for one would gladly accept not having DD used if there was an alternate mod that gave deep meaningful story. It appears from what has been posted and other things i know that this will do just that.

Most use MO for Skyrim so just create a DD free profile and use this mod and check it out. I have known Kendo for quite some time and know he is very open to suggestions provided it is in line with the concept of the mod he is creating. This combined with is use of DD, I believe you will get quite an experience to enjoy.

@Kendo 2

The question that I think jumps to mind with Karma's questions is are you willing to consider ideas, concepts story elements that of course are inline with your concept and goals of the mod? In otherwords some nice DD content stories etc. Of course they'd have to be inline with your concept and goals and be dam good to boot

For example

Ah, I see, thanks.

The answer as I see it is they keep trying to one up each other on which can make the ugliest character.  

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BSG or BW?

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This is the first time they had a very major reaction to the fans reactions to their game. They almost came short of shutting down Montreal location. That is a major change. They currently see it as the location causing the issue and not themselves though. Not their policies just poor quality control at that location and leadership sucked. Not because of the SJW etc. However, many articles and such are coming out and many references to how catering to SJW is causing the bottom line to drop are getting more and more common. These are things that they being business people will see and review, seriously.  Hopefully, they will consider them very seriously and make some serious changes on their formula with regards to this. However, how much of a change likely will be very little. MEA was one game. They are still patting themselves on the back for other games that they released so even though this is a slap in the face, they'd likely just take it as the fans didn't want a new Mass Effect game and shut that IP down. Too costly to continue. So we are very likely to never get another ME game again.

What will likely have to happen is another major upset like what happened to the ME game on another game (next release) and perhaps 2 or 3 more times before they get their act  straight. I believe they would survive this at that point. They will be really hurt but they have butloads of cash etc. so they will likely be able to fair that happening. As I understand it, MEA did make them a profit or at least they came close to breaking even. It didn't however make the$$$$ that they expected (and really should have made so they weren't far from that. Had they not fucked up everything they would be rolling in the $$$ with people yelling "Take my Money". ) 

"EA and Bioware need a reality check"...

Yep.

"you reap what you sow"

12 hours ago, Kendo 2 said:

The Quarian DLC/expansion/whatever is officially dead in the water.

It's really sad what happened to Mass Effect but the devs who made the games great no longer work for Bioware/EA so what was being put out really wasn't 'Mass Effect' anyway.  That's my opinion anyway.  I'm glad I didn't buy or play Andromeda.  EA's version of Bioware destroyed the franchise, but I have fond memories of Shepard, Jack, Liara, Rhex, Edi and Joker...everyone really.  Also glad those memories didn't get tainted.

I wish CDProjektRed would buy the ME franchise.

I hope not...

I would loose my job if it did happen

11 hours ago, endgameaddiction said:

And buy TES and FO franchise. At least CDProjekt Red have the skills to actually do voice protagonists the proper way. I still don't play W3, but right now, CDProjekt Red is the only company I'm looking at for RPGs. I hope Cyberpunk 2077 lives up to everyone's expectations.

They do everything much more "proper way" than the current games that are being released. I hope this continues. I hope they continue to remember the fans and deliver quality packed, well written games well into the future. Doubt other game companies will do this.

I also hope the Cyberpunk 2077 is able to live up to everyone's expectation. I say that because CD Red does have some serious competiti0on... themselves. Which might be the hardest to beat. I hope it meets at least the same quality as WIII and I will be happy. Also there are some hints in WIII that someone from that game might be present in Cyberpunk 2077 or at least referenced. That is just so cool in itself. Same EA/MEA doesn't have the basic storytelling skills and tech ability to give just the basic solid well built game. Nobody is asking for a classic just solid, reliable game with some decent story. Nothing that hasn't been done before. just the basic shit. So sad that they can't even do that.

10 hours ago, Kendo 2 said:

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Aside from a few bugs TW3 is a great fucking game.  I think the reason some people don't like it is due to the difficulty.  It is a high risk and low reward game, there isn't any sort of opponent leveling (walk in to the wrong fight at the wrong time and you'll die), the combat doesn't involve spamming buttons until you win.  There's all of that and the story is really raw, and the world is realistically offensive just like I imagine a war-torn Medieval society would be.

And there's going to be a Witcher TV series on Netflix!  Andrzej Sapkowski (the author of the books) is going to be a creative consultant and some of the scene directors from the game will be directing episodes.  No idea who's going to star in it but I hope they don't cram it full of Hollywood Millennials who can't act.  I HOPE it is a European production like Vikings or Game of Thrones.