Covid-19 Discussions.

[ritualclarity]

Posting a thread for Covid - 19 related discussions etc. I know eventually this will come here in some form. For the sites sake. I have created a thread.

For Covid -19 news reports and articles please post below. This thread is the catch all discussions and anything else related to Covid -19 (to help keep the news thread clean and give people the opportunity to review other sources of news.  This especially includes those proper news articles that go against the mainstream media's narrative.

 

 

[Alkpaz]

Is this what we can expect in the US soon?

Food has doubled in price, there. The only food available for days has been instant noodles. The more I see and read about this, the more I am convinced this is a plan to de-populate the planet, and it isn't about how "lethal/nonlethal" the virus is. I had my thoughts earlier in the year concerning it, but passed it off as "too conspiratorial" (dismissing the massive amount of oil tankers off the coast of California

), I don't think that, anymore. I don't think they would come out and say it, because if they did, there would be absolute chaos in the streets, and not just in big cities, but to the degree that everything would just burn. There is something more going on here, and the recent Candace Owens show sealed the deal for me, at least. 

Edited November 17, 2020 by Alkpaz

[ritualclarity]

Lock downs like in China can't happen here. Not really, at least in my opinion Local maybe but not nation wide. Too many own guns and if you think you have a hard time getting people to wear a mask to go to the store.. imagine how hard of a time you will have for a US citizen not to be able eat...   Mass violence for police brutality to a few people... imagine if it became a nation state... ?   There isn't enough military to contain the out lash.  There are a few things that the US must provide if at all possible (and it is possible the farms are producing enough) is food, shelter, and medical attention. If it fails.. there will be riots and violence people will take things under their own power and in many cases now I am afraid that would be bad  for a ... select few This is the reason I believe no matter how bad it got in New York and elsewhere.. there was always allowance for people to get food. The transportation of essential supplies was never stopped and if needed provisions was made to help (National Guard)

As for conspiracies.. I'd look up the history of the 1918 flu and see what happened there, then. It is pretty much the same as now. Brain dead politicians trying to cover basis without any real understanding what to do or how to handle it. 

On a side note... The early death tolls were much higher than they are now for those admitted to the hospital. Today the doctors and such have more tools to treat covid. Now the death rate even for those at risk is greatly reduced.  Also there seems to be a trend where more are catching it but not coming down with the disease or coming down with a milder case than previously reported. All of this leads me to the opinion that the extreme responses that was done early on isn't as needed with the second wave.  Instead I believe they (the government) should focus on care for those at most risk. Assistance in obtaining food and other essentials helping with some of the bills and keeping them at home. Including their care providers if possible. Then with that out of the way, they can be looser with the rest of the population and allow the economy to sustain itself a bit better. Sure ok, keep the social distancing and some of those rules if felt necessary but closing down things totally is just not necessary in my opinion. I am in an area that is hard hit. My job has had at least two times confirmed cases of employees come down with covid. It shut down an entire section of our work. Causing great difficulties due to the mandatory 14 day quarantine.. we work with those associates each day! Yet... not one of those dozen people came down with the covid. and not because they were social distancing (not possible for them) or even wearing mask (mask, yea, fucking right .. wear a mask.. not happening for most of those people)  Once it was such a scare that they closed down the location and called in specialist to do a deep cleaning (fogger essentially) of the place.  Still nobody has been "traced" to have caught it there. Exposed to up to 300 people a day each day, in an area that is high cases of covid.  Seriously. I am not joking.

TL;DR... early on, yes, it was reasonable to be extremely concerned... now not so much. Medical interventions has improved to a point were most even those at high risk, have a good chance of recovery. Not enough of a concern in my opinion to warrant early 2020 covid precautions. I believe they are over-reacting. Possibly because they are power hungry (which some have been taken to task for reaching too far) and partially because they feel they have to react strong for those that are in extreme fear of covid instead of rationally and responsibility because they are concerned about getting re-elected. This is especially true for liberal  Democratic locations. Of course this is just my opinion.

 

 

[endgameaddiction]

I've been really sick for the past 4 days. So is my mother, though she has gotten better. I called her doctor and supposedly she has COVID-19, which means I have it as well. My mother refuses to go to the hospital to get tested just as much as she refuses to take the vaccine. I don't know whether she passed it to me, or I did to her because she always at home all day, everyday. What I'm skeptical about is how they automatically assume it's COVID-19 without being tested. I personally think we just caught the season flu. Only way to find out is to get tested, and we both refuse to go and get tested.

I've been feeling like shit though. Won't lie. And we rarely ever get sick.

[ritualclarity]

Idealy they did an interview of your and your mother's symptoms. .. based on that they ruled out the common flu, cold and / or allergies. It is more complex than the chart linked below but...

https://www.multicare.org/file_viewer.php?id=19865&title=COVID-19-Symptoms-Chart

at least you can do your own checklist. 

Normal healthy people without the common risk factors usually recover after a couple of weeks. Some are "long haulers" for some reason they feel it for much longer.  Those with risk factors really need to be checked. If the doctors are asking for a check, then you should.  However, that also depends on the quality of your doctor/medical personal.  Keep in mind that some are poor and some people have died when they could have done quite well with some medical intervention (not talking about hospitalization just medication etc. )

It can be you that g ave it to her but from some reports the virus can stay on paper or other package materials that the local delivery service people drop off at the door. Mail carriers and Amazon personal have high covid rates from what I have heard. So it is possible for someone even that stay's at home to catch it if they are at risk and don't take care with the packages they receive (like wash hands after opening and disposing of the package materials etc)

Well I hope that helps.  Oh, also if you don't like the response from your medical provider.. if possible try another for a different opinion. However, it sounds like it is minor so far. Keep on top of it and make sure you report any negative changes regardless of how minor they might seem to you. ASAP. (same for your mother's)

[Alkpaz]

Smokem if you gottem? 

https://ebm.bmj.com/content/early/2020/08/11/bmjebm-2020-111492.responses

Although, a hot sauna/shower would be just as beneficial. I guess the Romans were onto something there.

[ritualclarity]

14 hours ago, Alkpaz said:

Smokem if you gottem? 

https://ebm.bmj.com/content/early/2020/08/11/bmjebm-2020-111492.responses

Although, a hot sauna/shower would be just as beneficial. I guess the Romans were onto something there.

Think that is interesting.. ?  They used to prescribe specific Cigarettes for Asthma patients.

[endgameaddiction]

I'm down to awful sense of smell and taste, and shortness of breath. It really limits my ability to do activities. I've never drank so much green tea with lime and honey before. I'm sick of drinking anymore of it.

[ritualclarity]

Just now, ritualclarity said:

Think of something else to drink or just drink water... 

Remember to exercise your lungs even though it is hard to breath.. try to get as much in and out as possible .. slowly if possible. It is an exercise that those with lung issues  do.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-recovery-breathing-exercises

The above is better. ...

I have asthma so when I have any issues I test the "peek flow" and report it to the doctor if very different from my baseline... (which by the way is above most people without asthma  

In any case, stay on top of it (both you and your mother) and don't let it gang up on you without screening at the doctor to get treatment. Don't let yoruselves become a statistic due to ignoring it.

 

[Alkpaz]

4 hours ago, ritualclarity said:

Think that is interesting.. ?  They used to prescribe specific Cigarettes for Asthma patients.

It isn't the smoke itself that is the benefit but the warm/hot air that you pull in that is. As you know COVID does not replicate as much in hot weather. It does like cold weather. 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0048969720330047#:~:text=We found that 60.0% of the confirmed cases of coronavirus,to 10 g%2Fm3

Thus, my Roman Bath comment.

As for lime and tea, the optimal PH of the flu is acidic, so if you consume foods that give more alkalinity to the blood it will prevent some replication. I guess this is why some people are sick for months, because they prevent replication but not stop it completely.

https://www.naturesfare.com/health/ph-connection-colds-flu/#:~:text=The viruses and bacteria which,throats and bouts of influenza.

Edited November 24, 2020 by Alkpaz

[ritualclarity]

However, in my instance the cigs had a natural plant that has help alleviate  symptoms for centuries.

I drink warm water or something similar (not milk) to help myself. However, sound that thought is for asthma (the bath house) hot warm air isn't comfortable for me. I don't see the benefits. however, with other illness I have had in the past.. yes.

[ritualclarity]

22 hours ago, driftscape said:

I'm down to awful sense of smell and taste, and shortness of breath. It really limits my ability to do activities. I've never drank so much green tea with lime and honey before. I'm sick of drinking anymore of it.

Still hanging in there? Hope you are feeling better...

[endgameaddiction]

21 hours ago, ritualclarity said:

Still hanging in there? Hope you are feeling better...

Trying to hang in there.

[ritualclarity]

1 hour ago, driftscape said:

Trying to hang in there.

Keep on hanging in there!  Keep us posted please

[ritualclarity]

 

I found this interesting...

 

[endgameaddiction]

Well, for the past few days I've been feeling so much better. I can finally breathe normal again and that's is a breath of fresh air. My mother did test positive for COVID-19 and she's been in the hospital for about a week now but doing good. Her oxygen level has been stable.

I feel like I'm 90% doing well. It just feels good to get over the shortness of breath.

[ritualclarity]

23 minutes ago, driftscape said:

Well, for the past few days I've been feeling so much better. I can finally breathe normal again and that's is a breath of fresh air. My mother did test positive for COVID-19 and she's been in the hospital for about a week now but doing good. Her oxygen level has been stable.

I feel like I'm 90% doing well. It just feels good to get over the shortness of breath.

Excellent. Still take care Shortness of Breath can still be a very bad thing and you can slip back. (not into Covid but have a serious lung issue with it) Good to hear your Mother is doing better. Good that she finally went in for the treatment that she very likely needed to keep her health.

Best wishes on your and your mother's quick recovery.

[endgameaddiction]

@ritualclarity

Thanks bud.

[ritualclarity]

 

Imagine how much of an impact Covid has been

 

[Alkpaz]

There is a line from Fear The Walking Dead Season 1 that fits with what is happening now.. 

"He said that "Men do these things not because of evil. They do evil things because of fear." And at that moment, I knew my father is a fool for believing there was a difference." - Daniel Salazar

I bring this up because of what Glenn Beck said last night, he said it, IMO much better than Gutfeld, Ben Shapiro, etc. 

Tim Pool used the term, "Neo Feudalism", I think that is the correct term. "The Great Reset" or as is it is often used "Build Back Better" (which Pelosi recently used) is nothing more but the realization of this quote:

"“it is much safer to be feared than loved because ...love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails.” ― Niccolo Machiavelli

You think we will not be going back to the Middle East? Think again: https://unsdg.un.org/resources/policy-brief-impact-covid-19-arab-region-opportunity-build-back-better

 

Edited December 8, 2020 by Alkpaz

[endgameaddiction]

 

[ritualclarity]

LOL.. he has nice 1776 cups behind him..

They have a problem. They don't follow their own rules. They don't /can't show where or how their rules will impact or improve the rules. All of this just causes / invites a backlash regardless of how good/bad their rules might or might not be. Being stupid.. not following their own rules and not making it clear how something is helping ... is a recipe for rebellion. I can't blame a single person for that.

Below they shut down a restaurant and then allowed a TV producer to have an outdoor event right next to her.

 

 

[endgameaddiction]

This was bound to happen. People reach a breaking point. Nancy Pelosi cares not for a stimulus package for the people in desperate need. Her among all these other hypocrites living in their ivory tower have nothing to worry about other than "orange man bad".

[ritualclarity]

16 hours ago, driftscape said:

This was bound to happen. People reach a breaking point. Nancy Pelosi cares not for a stimulus package for the people in desperate need. Her among all these other hypocrites living in their ivory tower have nothing to worry about other than "orange man bad".

If they.. the politicians made sense and followed their own rules and set an example (for those that want more extreme protections for Covid) then it would be much less likely for such an outcry IMO. The left and right and very Covid fearing and those that think it is just a strong flu can mostly agree that this is shit. Again IMO.  You can only shovel shit so much until some gets on you. These politicians are getting shit on them now after shoveling so much for so long. They deserve it. Hope they have something to fall back on when they aren't re-elected. Of this I am very sure they won't. Where I live someone gave some shit tax that everybody was outraged for. Made no sense and was only a money grab.. well.. a short time later, her ass is out. Can't even get enough signatures to even run much less votes to win.

[Alkpaz]

https://rumble.com/vc7lbv-restaurant-owner-blockades-health-inspectors-car.html?mref=6ozih&mc=aleum

"Restaurant Owner Blockades Health Inspector’s Car After Receiving Citation for Outdoor Dining"

Also, posting this:

If there isn't more than 190 thousand deaths added to the total in a month, then the survival rate is less than 1%. 

Current deaths stand at: 341,138. Let's see how far the MSM and the powers that be can inflate the numbers and add more gunshot victims/car accidents/cancer patients/etc to the list of "COVID deaths". 

Keep this stat in mind, as well: "In 2017, a total of 2,813,503 resident deaths were registered in the United States—69,255 more deaths than in 2016"

"In 2019, a total of 2,854,838 resident deaths were registered in the United States—15,633 more deaths than in 2018."

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db328.htm

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db395.htm

(NCHS Data Brief No. 395, December 2020) Notice the drop in death count, it should increase year over year due to total population. 

This averages out to 7,702.95 Americans dying every day in 2017. 

Note: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ puts it at 3% (Closed Cases). 

Edited December 28, 2020 by Alkpaz